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As we watch this pandemic spread and we watch also the reaction to the pandemic from different governments, from different organizations, we are seeing a true symbolism happens moment. And often symbolism also happens in a world where symbolism seems to have been forgotten. And because it is forgotten, there actually might be a tendency to go into extremes and to manifest the extremes of different aspects of symbolism. So one of the questions that has been coming up has been the question of borders, the question of purity, the question of exchange in terms of the economy and in terms of dealing with other people and trying to find the balance between the two. So we’re going to look a little bit once again at the symbolism of these different terms and try to understand how it is we can avoid falling into excesses. This is Jonathan Pageot. Welcome to the symbolic world. So we have all accepted, it seems, that all the governments of the world and all the different societies seem to have accepted that the solution to this problem is to emphasize borders. It is to create borders at every level of reality and especially at the personal level. Now, when you see how people are emphasizing, a lot of people have wondered why is it that people who are more left-leaning in their politics seem to be emphasizing more the personal border, that is self-isolating, whereas people who are more right-leaning seem to not want to emphasize that so much and rather emphasize creating a border at the state level or at different communal levels. Now, this is not that difficult to understand. Now, if you are someone who is pro-state or pro-globalization or pro-as the left-leaning people in politics tend to be, then you realize even intuitively without necessarily thinking about it that there is a danger of clamping down at different levels of identity. And you don’t want that because you want the state, you want the government level to be the strongest. And so in order to do that, the best solution is to bring the border down to the radical individual, right, down to as close to the individual as possible so that you are actually working to your advantage and you are disassembling the intermediary steps. So it is possible to use this kind of clamping down of the border to the individual to break down all the intermediary organizations. We have churches, we have businesses, we have all these intermediary identities that exist between us and let’s say the state. And in this time of pandemic when borders are reappearing and everybody is moving into a sense of purity, there is an intuitive fear that people will back down, will come down into ethnic identities or religious identities, even in terms of businesses or in terms of community groups or whatever it is, rather what they want, even like I said, it’s not necessarily planned out for everybody, what they want is to break, bring the identity down to the individual so that the state level will have the most freedom to act and to impose its laws and to impose its power. And it actually might open up a growing of the state level. It might give power to government that we had never seen before as we are all isolated in our houses and the government is putting in measures of social distance, distanciation, using cell phones to geolocalize people, you know, using vaccines to tag people, we’ve seen discussion about that with Bill Gates. All of this is bringing down to the individual and wanting to emphasize the state is running a very dangerous risk of creating a tyrannical state. So we need to be attentive to that and to be cautious. But the problem is that because a virus is, in a way, a virus moves in all kinds of ways, the other solution, which is to all come together or to come together in communities, it might emphasize the virus. Now, that is of course a problem, but we’re not even sure which one is going to be the best solution. Because as they tell us, everybody is going to get this or most people are going to get this. And so is it better to clamp down on the individual, increase the state, or is it better to come together into communities so that as communities we have the resources and the power, let’s say the comfort and the strength as communities to deal with the fallout of the death that this is going to bring? Because obviously people are going to die one way or the other. And so this is something we need to be attentive to. The other thing we need to be attentive to is that we used to live, just a few months ago, we lived in a world of globalization, of global trade, of tourism, of openness, of diversity. All of these things were the values that were being espoused by our governments, especially here in Canada. It became almost a caricature. And so now what we’re seeing is this clampdown, but we also, and the clampdown is kind of absolute, and there is a compassion element to the clampdown, there is a desire to clamp down because of compassion, and because of this it almost seems like now the question of being open to the exterior, because one of the aspects of being open to the exterior is of course trade. We need to never forget that. And so as we clamp down in our smaller identities, we are going to be reducing trade. Now, we are going to be reducing the things that come from the outside. One of the things that comes from the outside, no matter what level you are dealing with, is food. Food comes from the outside. Food is an integration of potentiality into your body, and so it is something, food is something that needs to be broken down into a kind of potential or chaos. You put it into your body, and then it becomes your body. So it’s taking from the outside and constituting your body from it. And that’s the same with trade. You exchange with a stranger in order to receive things from them that you will integrate into your identity, that you will bring into yourself. It could be objects, it can be all kinds, it can be services, all these things are related to being in contact with the outside. Now, because we don’t, it’s as if we moved from an extreme of openness, openness to trade, globalism, all of this stuff, and now we’ve moved into an extreme of closing down, we run the risk, if we are not careful, of destroying trade. Trade is also life. If you do not have the resources you need to continue, you are going to die. One of the, and because in the other opposite side, we had made ourselves completely dependent from the outside, it’s not sure that we have solutions to deal with this problem. One of the issues we’re seeing here now in Canada is that usually people who were picking fruit and picking the vegetables and the farms were all coming from the outside. They were all immigrants from South America mostly. And so now, what are we going to do? If we cut off this potentiality, then we do not have the capacity, the potential to feed ourselves? Is that what’s going on? So we need to be attentive to the symbolic swings, because as people are unaware, and the problem with swings, and the problem with a lack of symbolic understanding, is we almost become slaves to the symbolic process. And so as we move from openness into this purity, I told you in my last videos that one of the problems is that people forget the other side. As they move into a moment of purity, they can’t even, it’s like they’re another person. It’s a whole other aspect of their person which is being made awake, and they can’t even remember what it was like to be the other person. And so because of that, now all of a sudden, the other person becomes dangerous, evil, or whatever, and they don’t realize that you need to always have this balance between the two. So if we look only to the purity side, into protecting ourselves from the virus, and we completely ignore out of a desire, out of this radical swing in the pendulum, we completely desire the necessity for trade, and the necessity for receiving things from the outside, in order to be able to sustain ourselves, then we are also going to die. We’re going to die from an excess of purity. That is not impossible. That’s what allergies are. Allergies are excesses of purity. That is, your body is not able, is always wanting to fight off everything that comes from the outside, and is incapable of discerning what is needed from the outside and what isn’t. So we definitely need to be attentive to that as we move forward. But I would say, be attentive to what is happening, to what is happening to yourself, those of you who have kind of developed some kind of symbolic thinking. And you will see how the analogies that I try to portray for you, how there is an analogy between the biological reality of dealing with foreign bodies, and dealing with viruses, and things coming from the outside, there’s an analogy between that and the social level, and there’s an analogy between that and the spiritual level. And so, if you notice, for example, now all of a sudden, our governments are telling us to start wearing masks and to protect ourselves. In pondering the reality of the face mask, and understanding why is it that you need to wear the face mask, on the one hand, to protect yourselves from the outside, and on the other, to protect the outside from you, is going to help you understand why is it that we have veils, for example, in the temple, in the tabernacle. How the reason that there are veils in the temple or the tabernacle, or the reason why in scripture and in many traditions people ask women to wear veils, is exactly the same reason, at a different level of reality, of course, as why people are asked to wear a face mask. That is, on the one hand, and it really goes both ways. So, in the temple, one of the reasons why you want the temple to have veils, is to, on the one hand, protect from the outside, that is, protect from the profanation from the outside, protect from strangers who are not meant to be in the mystery, from denaturing the mystery, so you’re protecting the glory of God from the outside, but you’re also protecting the world from the glory of God. As I’ve shown you in my video on the coronavirus and the relationship, the pandemics and the relationship in the Bible, when the Ark of the Covenant moves out into the foreign land, it causes disease. And so, you need to protect the outside from the Ark as well. The glory becomes the disease once it is on the outside, this movement between glory and death. And so, we need to also be aware of that as we understand symbolically why it is that now, suddenly we’re being asked to wear these face masks, and how all of it is just always a continuation and a playing out of the patterns of reality. So, I’m going to try to be making a few more videos on this subject as the situation moves forward. If you want to ask questions, I’m not going to talk about this exclusively for sure, but be sure to tune in to my Q&A this month, and hopefully we can deal with some more questions that people might have on this subject in the Q&A as well. And I would say, please, if you can also subscribe to the Clips channel, I will put a link to the Clips channel in the description. A lot of the content, strange content that you’ve never seen, things that come from interviews that I’ve done, are all kind of being brought into the Clips channel. They’re doing a great job, and it’s short, five to ten minutes, even two, three minutes, to ten, fifteen minute clips, all organized by subject. So, thanks everybody for your support. Stay safe, stay aware, don’t stay too safe. Be attentive to what’s going on, and I’ll see you very soon.